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        <title>Step 1: See mill, get mill</title>
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        <description>Step 1: See mill, get mill

My Proxxon MF70 CNC

Proxxon product page



This was something of an impulse purchase on eBay, and I have to thank TSD for offering experience in what&#039;s good and bad in mills and CNC conversions.

The owner was using this as a key-cutting machine but was upgrading. The only slight drawback was a small pocket milled into the bed at one end which held the key-cutting fixture, but that&#039;s no biggie. More importantly, it was a tidy conversion using decent motors and the m…</description>
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        <title>Step 2: LinuxCNC</title>
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        <description>Step 2: LinuxCNC

Installing LinuxCNC in a Virtual Machine

WARNING!

This is a terrible idea and I am only doing it as an experiment!

LinuxCNC runs on a specially-compiled realtime linux kernel to avoid the many ways things can go horribly wrong if you try to run a physical device (especially one that can cause chaos, death and destruction) from a computer that is also thinking about other things like moving the mouse or streaming a YouTube video.</description>
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        <title>Step 3: Mill something!</title>
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        <description>Step 3: Mill something!

OK so this is really where the rubber meets the road and is definitely harder than it looks.

WARNING!
I am writing this as I learn it myself so there&#039;s going to be ridiculous mistakes, mangled terminology and half-understood stuff littered throughout! As I learn more I&#039;ll try and come back and correct things but for the love of Jeebus don&#039;t think this is an example of how it should be done!</description>
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        <title>Step 4: Get More Software!</title>
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        <description>Step 4: Get More Software!

If you&#039;re new to all this (like wot I is) you might think LinuxCNC is all you need - after all, we just got it to write its name using the mill, right?

WRONG!

LinuxCNC takes G-Code (a very low-level sort of code describing the toolpath) and spits out motor control signals for the mill&#039;s electronics. If you learn G-Code you can do some stuff by hand-coding but if you want to draw something fancy in a 3D CAD package and then make it on the mill there&#039;s a few more step…</description>
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        <title>Step 5: Don&#039;t mill another thing</title>
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        <description>Step 5: Don&#039;t mill another thing

Or: Getting an actual shape from a drawing to the mill

OK so we&#039;ve had the mill write something using the default LinuxCNC example code, but LinuxCNC is not for designing anything, it only runs G-code generated by a CAM or CAD package.</description>
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        <title>Step 6: Get a real computer!</title>
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        <description>Step 6: Get a real computer!

LinuxCNC comes as a complete system - a specially compiled realtime Debian Linux operating system with the LinuxCNC software installed. That means you have to either re-format a computer to install it or get fancy and install it alongside your existing</description>
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        <title>Step 7: Put it in the shed!</title>
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        <description>Step 7: Put it in the shed!

You may have already done this like a sensible person, but as I was “testing” in the house with a virtual machine I now need to transplant the mill &amp; my CNC PC into the shed so I can make mess.

...also maybe build an enclosure for it if I get time.</description>
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        <title>Step 8: Mill Something</title>
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        <description>Step 8: Mill Something

Specifically I decided to try with a 0.1mm engraving cutter (from a cheap eBay pack of 10) into a bit of black anodised aluminium:



And here&#039;s how it came out:



All work and no play

So while I&#039;m counting it as a success that I</description>
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        <title>Step 9: Buy more bits!</title>
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        <description>Step 9: Buy more bits!

So far I&#039;ve been using cheap eBay cutters whcih cost less than £5 for a pack of 10, which is fine for first steps where you are likely to be doing stuff wrong, but not so great once you&#039;re doing stuff you actually care about.</description>
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        <title>Step 10: The inevitable backlash!</title>
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        <description>Step 10: The inevitable backlash!

In Step 8 we found some backlash and reduced it by tightening the end nuts, but that&#039;s not a perfect solution - too tight and the nuts bind up as the shaft spins, too loose and the thing comes undone again!

So, I bought some M6 half-nuts (left-hand thread for the Y axis, normal for the X axis) to allow me to take the play out and then lock the nut in place.</description>
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        <title>Step 11: Install NativeCAM in LinuxCNC</title>
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        <description>Step 11: Install NativeCAM in LinuxCNC

	*  Download &amp; install NativeCAM
	*  To make it appear inside LinuxCNC you&#039;ll need to tell it to modify your machine&#039;s .ini file:
		*  From a normal user terminal, change directory to the one that contains your inifile.</description>
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        <title>Step 12: Mill bits of mill</title>
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        <description>Step 12: Mill bits of mill

After a bit of faffing around, it became obvious that the best way to remove backlash was by making new ends of the ways to add ball bearings.



Work in progress

Step 1: Model it

Because I don&#039;t (yet) have a CAD setup, I&#039;m basically coding stuff up in NativeCAM which is tacked onto LinuxCNC. This is OK for simple stuff but gets incredibly tedious very quickly, especially standing at a machine in the corner of the shed. It&#039;s also a pain that you have to constantly a…</description>
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        <title>Step 13: Tripping over</title>
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        <description>Step 13: Tripping over

After the initial success of having set the mill up, worked out what I was doing with the basics of NativeCAM and not breaking too many cutters, I noticed strange things afoot when the mill ran for longer periods.

At first I thought I had messed something up, pushed too hard or otherwise just had a loose connection, but then it became very obvious when the machine started moving by itself when it was supposed to be sat there doing nothing.</description>
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        <title>Step 14: Practice</title>
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        <description>Step 14: Practice

This could be it for now... mostly the mill works and does what I want, the issues are either in my bad programming or the limitations of the setup; very small mill, no coolant system, spindle is too fast for some materials, or I just don&#039;t have good feeds/speeds or suitable cutters.</description>
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        <title>Learning CNC Step-by-step</title>
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        <description>Learning CNC Step-by-step

What?

I bought a Proxxon MF70 micro-mill with a basic but neatly done CNC conversion from a key-cutting outfit and I am going to learn from zero to hopefully turning out some useful stuff.

Why?

If you have a lathe and a mill you can</description>
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